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If someone is already doing this topic let me know.


Anyway I was looking at a thing on magic in here somewhere

And it got me thinking about the whole ancient lost science idea.


And while I don't buy everything from that show on the History channel

They do make a good case for ancient advanced science.


It's the alien part I tend to discount.

Not to say that aliens aren't out there or may have come here


But the aliens "gods" they tend to point to in the series

Looked human acted human mated with humans.

Look at all the half gods in the Greek stories.


So I hold to the view that most of these "aliens" were humans

Who just happened to have higher level technology.


Easy enough to see how that could happen


Take the world as it is now.

Pick a disaster. End of civilisation level.

Wait oh... 50 years or so; and then come down from a space station

Or out from under a mountain.


We have modern tech while the other survivors are people in remote jungles and such who didn't have much tech to start with...

Would we not be taken for "gods" ?



Maybe I'll take a shot at trying to write a story along that line.

See how long I can keep people guessing as to when it's taking place

Ancient past or post apocalyptic future.


Anyone else who wants to try something along this line;

Go for it.

If you want help with such a project; I'll do my best to be useful

And if you don't want/need help; well, let me know about it anyway

as I'd love to see a good story done along this line.

And so far all I've got is the concept.



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Adding to this mostly to pull it out of the pile and put it on top again.

If there's anyone, Guest or Member who'd like to comment on stuff like this... Well, it's sort of dead around here lately. I'm not sure what all a Guest can and can't do here But becoming a member isn't all that hard.

Just a few clicks and simple questions,  if I remember right.

Guest can use the chatbox I believe, so if you need help just ask there and someone will get back to you.


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One of the noteable counter arguments to the idea of a precursor high tech civilisation is the lack of secondary evidence. 

There is primary evidence, all the buildings made from huge blocks of stone. But where is the rest of it ?

The pot shards, and art work, tombs and trash ? 

Did they burn their dead ?

Were they super eco-friendly?

Is this lost civilisation being actively hidden ? And if so, why ? And by whom? 



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Interesting thought about the great pirmaid. There is the idea that it was some sort of power generation system. Which has left me with the question of

Where was the control room? 

And now they are talking about finding a big empty space above the grand gallery.

If it is the missing control room then there should be a connecting passageway starting not too far from the front door. 

But haven't we already looked for hidden doors and passages all along the way there ?

Mostly just thinking out loud here,

But if anyone reading this knows anything or has any thoughts on this...


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So, I've  been doing some research and;

Vibro-blades are a real  thing, Go figure. Not a huge surprise but still cool to know.

And there's some evidence that a sort of tuningfork sonic drill was used to cut and carve stone back in ancient times.

And that the stones used to build the Great Pyramid are a type of geo-polymer cement/concert.

Which in a way could also explain things like the London hammer and other stuff found in ancient stones.

Bad part about that idea is that "natural " geo-polymer processes are a thing geologists should already know about. And if they somehow didn't That would put the age of a LOT of stuff into question. Unless we just have really bad geology work on these few "out of place" artifacts.


Any thoughts, anyone ?


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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. 

I was asking the other day; why we don't have water fueled cars, if everything needed to make them is off the shelf technology ?

And then I went looking for an answer.

And I found one. Which begs the question of why we don't hear this tidbit of information trotted out whenever the topic of water fueled cars comes up ?

Oh, the answer; Disappointing really; Which may be why it's not brought up.

The energy needed to break water into Hydrogen and oxygen is the same as the energy you get when you burn that Hydrogen as fuel. A bit more actually as no system is perfect and some energy gets lost along the way.

So, yep, Thermodynamics strikes again. 

But...We see these water fueled cars driving around?

We do. But there is always another source of power in play one way or another. 

Extra batteries, gasoline being mixed with the Hydrogen, or stuff added to the water that reacts to give off extra hydrogen. 

Sorry, but you can't get around thermodynamics. 

Spread the word, so we can stop wasting time on this a focus on options that do work.


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*puff...puff.........cough...COUGH* DUUUDDDE! Did you know that they have a car that runs on water!? WATER! But the government is suppressing the technology, man! Wait. Did you hear that? Ha-ha-ha...what? Oh yeah, DUUUDDDE! Did you know that they have a car that runs on water!?

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Like...Dude What are you smoking?


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I was out of town a while back and was watching one of the news channels, can’t remember which one but, they were doing a story on internet security. One of the people they interviewed was connected to top secret military research, like skunk works, and they asked him how they protect their work and he said they don’t save to computers, they keep everything on hard copy and secured physically under gaurd. This isn’t what caught my attention. They asked him what kind of things they considered valuable enough to treat this way and he mentioned  things like propulsion systems, stealth tech and, this is what made me go “wwhhaaAAA!?!?!?”, gravity resistant material. He then quickly rattled off a few more, like energy efficient engines and such, as if he suddenly realized he needed to take the focus off of the GRAVITY RESISTANT MATERIAL remark! I just sat there and waited...and waited...and NOT ONCE did the interviewer ask, “Excuse me, did you say GRAVITY RESISTANT MATERIAL!?”



I know, maybe he meant light wieght material for parachutes or airplane bodies.


Anyways, I’m pretty sure I’ll be placed on ANOTHER top secret govt. watch list for this post. Oh well.


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Maybe they did ask and it was edited out.

But then they'd just edit out the oops part.

As to being watched;

This is a writing site,

it's a fiction thing isn't it.  😊

"Gravity resistant" 

I'm going to have to do some poking around to see what I can find on that one. 




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While poking around on the gravity resistant thing I ran across a thing 

Where this guy; Bushman; had done a test involving crazy strong rare earth magnets. Placed N to N and dropped off a building they were landing later than two equal sized pieces of the same stuff that weren't magnetized. 

Claims that this is an anti-gravity effect

Sadly I can't buy it without better testing. Steel rebar in the wall of the building is most likely to be why the magnets fell slower.

Take the magnets up in a balloon and drop them over an empty field.

If you get the same results, then,

Then, we are on to something.

Until then, it's just a pipedream fueled  by wishful thinking and sloppy science.


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